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Post by divastyle on Jul 14, 2010 19:44:15 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I know I haven't been around in awhile but when I saw the support center I had to stop by. I thought I had completed the grieving process but I was wrong. The last 2 days have been hard, I don't what brought it on but I was watching some of Michael's videos and the tears just started falling from my eyes and I was a mess!! Can anyone help me?
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Post by Melissa on Jul 15, 2010 0:01:49 GMT -5
It's natural diva. I've had weeks at a time where I've felt, as you say, that perhaps I've completed the greiving process, but then something will hit me. A song beginning to play and taking me off guard, a sudden burning desire to watch one of my many MJ DVDs, staring for long periods of time at his photos as if this will somehow make him tangible.
Greiving is never complete, it just changes forms. Grief can even temporarily become elation (as it has for all of us at some point). So, diva, know that your tears are just the other side of joy and that joy will be returned to you. The more time that passes, the longer we've been missing him. That will inevitably catch up with us now and again. Feel it, own it, and let it go.
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 15, 2010 2:41:04 GMT -5
I hear you, Diva I have gotten so much better than I was... I don't sob anymore but often I'll shed a few tears, just when I think of him really being gone. But his spirit is not gone! His spirit lives on in our hearts, and he'll always be a part of our lives from this day forward. Michael is so happy now, and doesn't want you to be sad, so if it helps any, ask Michael himself to help you heal. That's what I did, and he helped me heal! Namaste, Mal
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Post by divastyle on Jul 15, 2010 18:12:44 GMT -5
Thanx guys! I can honestly say that I haven't been so upset over anybody's passing since I lost my dad in 2000. I definately believe in the spirits, my great Uncle could actually communicate with them and he could see them at times too. I wish I had that ability, I'd tell Michael and my dad just how much I love & miss them both.
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Post by divastyle on Jul 15, 2010 18:53:11 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm Dawn BTW.
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 16, 2010 1:29:25 GMT -5
Dawn, you can tell Michael yourself how much you miss him. And your dad too. To learn how to connect with spirit, go to the Learn to Connect With Michael section. Those instructions would also help you connect with your dad, if you are up for that possibility.
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Post by divastyle on Jul 16, 2010 19:18:24 GMT -5
Thanx so much, I want to try but I'm kinda afraid of the spirits!
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 17, 2010 0:48:25 GMT -5
There's no need to be afraid, Dawn. It's such a beautiful experience to connect to spirit... Michael and your dad would only help you, not hurt you. Of course, only when you feel emotionally ready to try it. I would never suggest such a thing if it could be in any way dangerous! As long as you surround yourself in a Bubble of Love, you will be perfectly safe. Whenever you decide to try it, we would love for you to share your connection at the forum too! It's all for love, L.O.V.E. Mal
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Post by GiveInToMe on Jul 18, 2010 12:33:42 GMT -5
Hey Diva, hang in there sweetie....it's funny...I've been like that myself lately too... again! I thought I was done with my grieving but last week it's been one of grieving all over again. Must be that a year passed by so quickly? maybe that energy is strong in the air these days?....who knows. But it comes an goes. I have shed painful tears again all over but then, after releasing my soul, I feel the love and joy again and I'm more motivated to make that change in the world in his name and in God's name. It's natural to shed a tear once in a while....and that could go on for years (that's the way it usually is for me). That's part of grieving...it will become better sis, hang in there
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Post by catharina59 on Jul 22, 2010 16:34:55 GMT -5
hello Diva, I agree with this all above; I have the same like you; it starts all over like of, but I do a bit like mary ann because it upsets me to much and I' m afraid to tumble again in the black hole of grieve. I think he stood for something we need so much and we love so much, but what we also fear; it was Mandela who said: we are not afraid for our disabilities, but we are afreaid for our geniality. Michael was a genius! in that time I wasn't able to do much so I donnoit want that anymore and I'm willing to choose for the joy and laughter MJ gave us; anyway he is here with us and we can still help him by being happy and make an effort to make a change; It doesnt have to be big things, just give every single day some one a compliment, a sign of reaching out, a bit of gentlenes and it is for free and there is plenty to give; this simple gesture change into the direction of a better attitude toiwards eachother and towards a higher conscience and then to a united conscience; what we are together; like Michael said: You are an other part of me; you and me are one, so noone can part us from eachother; so you and me our here and so is Michael, he can be everywhere in the same moment, so he is with us and he wants us to conti nue his work; look to what he did and do not let your attention eing attracted to nonsense, Michael absolutely doesnot want that he want us to continue his work; do you no that negation does't exist? so we have to ber carefull with what we say, because we often say things we donnot want to say;so when we say : donnot do this; we say: do this; so let be carefull with our words and do like Michael wants us to do and use as only weapon, the energy of love; If we have a conflict we send immideately towards this person the energy of love, tranquility and harmony and what happens then is really amazing; we do this several times and then the peson changes his attitude; you will see and feel it! just give it a try and in the meanwhile we change our selves into more loving beings! if you want to hear more I can give you some of me own experiences. For now lot of love and happy dreams because her in France it is about bedtime!
Love to all Catharina
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 22, 2010 16:59:42 GMT -5
Dear Catharina, you are a treasure! What would we do without you? I agree with everything you've said and then some. I want to hear more about your energy of love, and how it affects people. Please do share your experiences... anything that will help others is welcome here. Love you, Mal
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Post by catharina59 on Jul 22, 2010 17:31:42 GMT -5
Thank you mary ann for your compliments! I am only humain so it is also difficult for me to transform sometimes mly anger into mlove; but I just try harder if it is difficult,MJ: try harder, show more; If i have an con=flicte, what ever it may be, I donnot argue anymore, only sometilmes when I am too humain ; I start to think and I think only three wqords: love, calme, harmony and I send it over towards tjhe peson, I repete as often as I think it needs; In the meanwhile I respire deeply to queit my own emotions and eventuel heartbeat; And then it depends ont the gravenes of the conclict where there is left some slight souvenir of the conflict; I just give no attention to it then or there is nothing at all left. I have a puber daughter Laura, who is often very difficult and rude; once I returned from a dentist with her in the car for one hour to drive, my daughter wasn't happy with my driving attitude and she cursed me and left the car; I was so angry I would drive away to my home and I wa s willing to strengle her; then I remembered that I always talk about sending love in resolving conflicts, so I drove after her and parked the car; she was in a 'kindergarden', the rihg=ght place to be' then suddenly I knew what to do; I do nothing, it was lovely weather , so I laid down on the lawn and closed my eyes, thenb I started to say in my head towards my daughter: I love you! I LOVE you! I adore you! and then I give in to really feel it this and I happen to feel it it, it calmed me in an instant and then I thought towards her,: I want you to get in the car so we continue our voyage; and in less then 2 minutes she came to me and ; I stayed like I wass, she pulled me arm and said: are you dead? If you are dead I goning to cry; lets go to the car and go home; then I stood up and we went. I often use also other exercises and thoughts to send love and purify our systems and it works like heaven, mind you're words, catharina:! If you want to hear more let me know! love to all and have nice drams! catharina
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Post by karencanada on Jul 22, 2010 21:37:21 GMT -5
Catharina you are such an inspiration I also want to add, that we have to forgive ourselves for the times when we fail to act on the higher impulse that we know we carry within us but sometimes don't access before we react. When this happens, Barbara kaufmann's ideas about going back over sad, painful events in MJ's life and imagining a different, positive and loving event and outcome, can be used to change the energy of the interaction that was negative...I think it changes the energy of the event that we carry in ourselves, anyway, so that it gets transformed into love. Ms. kaufmann wrote about this in one of her INnerMichael messages, transforming shadow... ANd to Dawn....I think everyone who has been so deeply touched by Michael and his passing will be shedding tears for a long time to come...as long as the love is there, in our hearts and souls, some of the pain of separation will probably also remain. Here's my thought: that Michael was an incredibly sensitive soul, who felt the pain of the world, of all the worlds children who lived in hunger and fear, of all people betrayed and all souls lost...and I think he used that pain to drive him in his passion and vision to change the world and give and give and give love to the world. And I think many of us who found ourselves so full of grief after his passing, are also sensitive souls who somehow have felt some of the magnitude of what he felt, and spent his life transforming into love....so the message I guess for me is to use the pain, use it to transform ourselves and turn it into love, and into action....as MIchael did. And....to be as gentle with yourself and understanding of your pain as you would a child's, too....heal your own heart, let the tears flow and cleanse your heart and spirit, wash it with love and understanding... and know that we are all on this journey together LOVE K
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Post by judith51 on Jul 23, 2010 6:55:08 GMT -5
It's normal to feel sad from time to time about Michael. Afterall, he touched us all on such a personal level. You are not alone.
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Post by 111fas on Jul 23, 2010 14:23:54 GMT -5
M.agical! you are in many ways I.n everything you do and say C.hildren playing all around you H.ear you sing, like an angel A.lways showing love and kindness E.xciting me, watching you dance L.osing you hurts, I've lost myself
J.ust sing one more song, please O.2 in London, my knees are shaking S.econd row, I'll be close to you E.nergized to see the "King of Pop" P.ossibly you'll look my way, at me H.elp me someone, Michael is gone
J.une afternoon - I hate this day A.ll I ever wanted was to see him C.anceled tour, tragedy over the world K.eeping my sanity is impossible S.ong after song of his, I keep playing O.h my Lord, he's yours now, goodbye N.o more Michael, a piece of me died
written by - 111FAS
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 23, 2010 15:17:14 GMT -5
111FAS, your poem is beautiful but so very sad! We know how you feel because we all miss him so much. I strongly suggest that you take a break from Michael's songs and videos for a little while. I had to do that myself when the grief got just too much to bear. I also suggest you go read Channeled Messages From Michael. I know for sure the info there will help you feel better. Feel free to send me a PM if ever you need to spill, and that goes for anyone who's having a rough day. My username is admin Hugs, Mal
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Post by divastyle on Jul 24, 2010 13:10:54 GMT -5
Thanx everyone, I find it absoulty AMAZING that Michael has brought us all together, what an amazing spirit he is!!!
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Post by divastyle on Jul 24, 2010 13:24:38 GMT -5
There's no need to be afraid, Dawn. It's such a beautiful experience to connect to spirit... Michael and your dad would only help you, not hurt you. Of course, only when you feel emotionally ready to try it. I would never suggest such a thing if it could be in any way dangerous! As long as you surround yourself in a Bubble of Love, you will be perfectly safe. Whenever you decide to try it, we would love for you to share your connection at the forum too! It's all for love, L.O.V.E. Mal Thank you Mal, I am going to try it soon. I've read the instructions and I definately believe in the spirit world because I have some Native American heritage in my family on my father's side and the Native people communicate with the spirits quite often. I know that this is going to sound silly & all but Michael's not gonna be upset w/ me because of how incredibly sexy & gorgeous I think he is is he? OMG, I'm so embarrased now but I must keep it real. L-O-V-E to you all!!!!!
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 24, 2010 14:32:06 GMT -5
LOL Dawn! Good question, though. No, Michael is not upset at all that we think of him that way. He remembers being human and understands everything now. He is happy that he brings you joy and only feels love for you, so there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Good luck with connecting! Mal I know that this is going to sound silly & all but Michael's not gonna be upset w/ me because of how incredibly sexy & gorgeous I think he is is he? OMG, I'm so embarrased now but I must keep it real.
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Post by judith51 on Jul 24, 2010 16:12:33 GMT -5
Michael was an incredibly attractive man physically and in many apsects of his personality. I 'm 52 and I know sometimes I have MJ fanatasies. Lets face it he had it all. This is why he was such a great performer. Got to go I 'm having one now. Just joking!
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Post by divastyle on Jul 24, 2010 19:53:04 GMT -5
@judith, I have them too and sometimes I feel so guilty!
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Post by judith51 on Jul 25, 2010 19:50:03 GMT -5
Who needs guilt. Michael Jackson is fat free and easy on the eyes. He'll never go to your thighs.
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jul 26, 2010 1:39:23 GMT -5
LOL, good one.
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Post by divastyle on Jul 26, 2010 22:29:57 GMT -5
Ummmm Judith, couldn't you have phrased that sentence just a wee bit differently?? ***blush***
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Post by catharina59 on Jul 27, 2010 7:28:27 GMT -5
111fas, that's really a very beutiful poem, but a bit sad; we all have to trasform this sadnes into happiness, in to joy, into ECXTACY, because in this state, we ARE connected with Michael; I read in a vid about 'the we all cry tonight at the same time' a message of Michael: "The ultimate goal of all my work, my songs and my dances, my performances, it to let feel the exctacy of divine unity" You can read it in his eyes, the eyes are the mirror of the soul, his laughing mouth exprimes the energy of live in the way of unconditional love for every living creature, especially for the children, A child in his own natural state IS pure unconditional love, just to Be, we are BEings, just Be a Being, donoot hang some mask, some disquishment on this being the being;I have to stop. I love you all, don't worry just be happy and count your blessings! Catharina
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