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Post by alijoy on Jan 9, 2010 1:14:15 GMT -5
I'm Alicia. I'm the administrator of the Facebook group VindicateMJNow. More information about that is in the "Heads Up" section & is a post in the "VINDICATION" thread. I have to admit that the 1st time I ever listened to Michael Jackson was in late '92 or very early '93; just before the interview with "Oprah" that happened in Feb. 1993. I was 9 yrs. old & the short film was "Black or White". I was blown away, but I grew up in a house with parents who, to put it nicely, were stuck in the '60s in the South. Growing up I only ever listened to him or watched him when he happened to be on. I never sought anything about him out. When the 1st allegations came, I had a gut feeling he was innocent. I didn't know why I was so sure he hadn't done what he was accused of, but I knew it like I knew my own name. The other, more ridiculous things he was accused of, like bleaching his skin or having tons of plastic surgery were, well, ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, he may have had a boatload of plastic surgery, but that's his own business; nobody else's. Watching idiot reporters talk endlessly about the 1993 interview & seeing this poor man look so sad & hear his voice break when he said he was very proud of his African heritage just broke my heart. Nobody deserves the kind of treatment he got in his life. I never was sure what to make of his marriage to Lisa Marie, but I've always had my opinions; particularly after the divorce & during his trial. I was really appalled when he couldn't even have kids without being harshly criticized. It never seemed very loud & didn't seem to last long, though, so I finally thought that his life was finally the way it should be. I was dumbfounded when the 2nd allegations came & he was put on trial. I remember having the same gut feeling that I'd had during the 1st allegations. Unfortunately, the fact that this had happened before & was worse than last time made it harder not to be conflicted. The media convicting him when the trial was still going on didn't help at all. Ultimately, when he was acquitted, I was happy for, not only him, but his children. I had seen interviews of Michael in the past & listened to how the media always talked about him, so I hadn't bothered to watch the Martin Bashir interview. I knew it would get twisted to suit the media view of him & I refused to increase ratings for an interview that only twisted a knife in a good man's back. I had no idea that it was the impetus for the 2nd allegations & trial. After the trial, there was still so much talk about the interview that I curiosity got the better of me & I had to watch. It was worse than I'd expected. The interview, itself, was exactly what I'd expected. Bashir's voiceovers, however, took it to a level that was much worse. I watched it & the "Take 2" of the interview in the same weekend. I could feel my blood pressure rise with the original interview. I was practically spitting nails during Michaell's personal footage. I was so angry, particulary when Bashir told Michael what a loving parent he was, but what he'd said to the camera was how bad a parent Michael was, that I actually felt like I could strangle Bashir through the TV screen. I'm not a violent person; either. I don't know how I felt about the O2 concerts that were supposed to happen. I didn't really doubt that he would be back on top, but I also knew that it would put him in the public eya again & might restart all of the bashing he'd left behind. As it turns out, I was right on both counts. His death did put him back on top & the media has resumed bashing him. As tragic as his death is, I can't help put think he may now have the peace that he was denied in life. He won't get to see his kids grow up, but he made happy memories with them that I'm sure they'll hang on to for the rest of their lives. I've read in a few places about people that wouldn't have known each other before Michael's death that are now supportive friends of each other & are working to make Michael's mission of healing the world & each other, especially children, a reality. I've made some of those friends. This board is 1 of those places where people can meet & communicate. Maybe Michael's death taught us a lesson we wouldn't have learned otherwise.
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Post by MaryAnn Layton on Jan 9, 2010 9:49:17 GMT -5
Thanks for posting Alicia, and welcome! Your story is so familiar... many of us didn't know or care about Michael when he lived. Some of us believed the media trash talk but it had to take his death for us to WAKE UP. That is when we became driven to learn everything about him, and in so doing, learn to love him and all he stood for.
Our lives are changed forever, and there's no going back. We are on a holy mission now. There is a Michael movement going on all over the world... Can You Feel It? It's so sad that it had to take his death for millions of us to become aware, but then this is how it was meant to be.
Namaste,
Mal
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Post by catharina59 on Jan 10, 2010 9:41:29 GMT -5
Hello Alicia, I am from Europe and in that time I didn't pay much attention towards this kind of news, I just thought: this is not true and point; I liked MJ musique, but I didn't know him and that's why his passing has touched me so badly, because after his death I came to know him better and he is my atmost inspirator at so many subjects, for me he is the role model how to react under every surcumstance and it is like Mal says there is since 25 juin a vivid Michael energy going on and just 2 days ago I found out why that can be just now very important; I'm sure Michael, what a special name he has, just like the arch angel Michael, the one who shares, I'm sure tehat Michael is a highly develloped spririt, who came to set us on the treck of LOVE, we have to open our hearts and develop our heart chakra, this is important for entire humanity because just lately in 1994 there has been a reunion of the good and the fallen forces, who dicided from then of to cooperate with each, that's ery important, because due to that, the so called apocalyps will not going to happen, but because of our bad behaviour and thoughts and so on we have still to deal with our selfmade demons; to evitate this the only thing we have to do is, to higher our nivo of energy as humanity as a whole; we can do this by opening up our heartchakra, this is the development of the Christ conciousness or Melchizendek concousness; Michael is now able to help us more and that's what we feel; It is really amwing and excting, we mourn and we are happy in the same time; we can change the world, together, only together; we learn from michael how to deal with'ennemies', just stay nice, just send them love, that blocks their hatred more then you can imagine, plus we have to protect our children of the world; when we are capable of preserving our children in the state in which the are born, this is in the state of unconditional love, then we can solve every problem in this world; listen to the mj messages, they are every were!! It is really hopegiving I knew that the fallen angels will return to their source, which is God! Love to all,
Catharina
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Post by Ann on Jan 11, 2010 3:17:33 GMT -5
Thanks Catharina, what you shared reminded me of the day I started to fall in love with Michael. Like you I heard about Mike and listened to his music in the early 90s, watched his videos and I remember I watched him for the very first time when he already got vitiligo and looked white. But I didnot really know him and I just thought he was just another celebrity and I am the kind not into 'celebrity'. But after his passing I searched info of him and... I cried a lot and then fell in love with him and... he has touched my soul so deeply and changed the person in me forever... I feel like I has been baptized... Thanks for your inspiration, I love you Mike forever and always...
Love you all more...
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Post by Ann on Jan 11, 2010 3:45:15 GMT -5
Hi Alicia. Welcome to our MJsArmy! I am glad that Michael has touched so many lives after his passing and many new MJ boards (incl. yours) have been born since then, and I'd like to visit your board soon. I am from Vietnam and I was so angry to have learn about the injustice and living-hell Michael had to endure in his lifetime because of racism and inhumanity and media lies. I also set up a devoted MJ website at vivomi.com with the wish to share all MJ good things to the world and to reveal the truth (with facts) about what a beautiful human being MJ really was which is totally against what the media has wrongly portrayed MJ as a weirdo and brainwashed the public abt MJ's eccentricity for several decades now..
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Post by alijoy on Jan 11, 2010 19:10:00 GMT -5
Hey, Catharina & Billie Jean. Thank you for the warm welcome. I've only posted here twice & I already feel like a member of this little family. I hope both of you have joined my Facebook group. What you're doing, Billie Jean, sounds very much like what I am doing. I tried to go to your website, but I went to a page that looks like a website builder page; not your website. Something about Michael was mentioned, but not much. Can you give me the entire link again? As soon as I am able to get to it & look around, I may post there if you have a forum set up. I do hope that you both become members of VindicateMJNow. As soon as I can get too Billie Jean's website, I'll post about the Facebook group as a discussion topic.
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Post by Hayat on Jan 14, 2010 15:50:24 GMT -5
Welcome Alijoy!!!
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Post by divastyle on Mar 2, 2010 22:41:47 GMT -5
Hey everyone, I'm Dawn and I've been a fan of Michael as long as I can remember but by the time Thriller rolled around I was IN LOVE!! I fell madly in love w/ him at 14, I had put him to the side as I grew older and wasn't really paying much attention to him B4 he passed, but I NEVER believed any of that garbage that he was accused off!! It just breaks my heart to here people STILL talking about it it!
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Post by divastyle on Mar 2, 2010 22:46:40 GMT -5
OOPS, I wasn't finished w/ my message. After he passed, it brought back all my memories as a teen growing up with his music, my cousin that grew up with me then passed in 1999 and I have some beautiful memories of how we would watch MTV all day waiting for them to play the Thriller video,we even went to see him on the Victory Tour together. It's like I've fallen in love with him all over again, I miss you Michael & I'll love you forever!!!
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Post by Melissa on Mar 3, 2010 23:40:10 GMT -5
Welcome divastyle! Your story is very similar to mine; I have fallen in love all over again and it has taught me something about the nature of love ... that it doesn't fade, it never dies, it simply stops receiving ATTENTION. Once my attention was focused back on Michael, it all came back to me tenfold. It's sort of like when you see an old lover that you haven't thought about in years and (if it had been a good relationship) your emotions and memories flood over you for as long as you give them your attention.
So it is with grief. The pain of Michael's death will--over time--be something that we stop paying attention to. That doesn't mean we love or miss him any less. He will be there with his joy and love and painful physical absence whenever we have the time or inclination to let it resurface.
How vast, complex and beautiful it all is, eh? Michael is teaching me that (or helping me to remember).
Love you more!
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Post by divastyle on Mar 4, 2010 22:11:23 GMT -5
Thank you, Melissa!! Not only have I fallen in love all over again, I've also met so many people online that are going through the exact same thing, it's like Michael brought us all together!!
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Post by jacque on Mar 7, 2010 0:12:22 GMT -5
Welcome, divastyle! Did you say you saw Michael in the Victory Tour??? How awesome is that?!?! I must admit it that I didn't fall in love with Michael and his beautiful soul until after he had left this physical plane, much to my regret. Similar to what you said, Melissa, I wasn't paying much attention to Michael as I was focused on my own life. I didn't pay much attention to what the media said about him, but I also didn't support him. But something happened to me when Michael passed that has changed me forever. He has touched my heart and soul so deeply; I will never, ever be the same again! This supportive group, MJ's Army, of loving individuals from all over the world has helped me to cope with my distress over Michael's death so much. I don't know where I would be without all of you! I have no one here in my everyday life whom I can talk to about my inexplicable feelings and extreme grief over Michael's passing. You have helped me to get past my intense grief by sharing your stories with me, by sharing your Michael videos and photos, and by sharing your MJ inspired poetry. Now it is time for us to pick up where Michael left off and continue with his mission to heal the world! I love you all! Jacque
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Post by divastyle on Mar 7, 2010 0:18:23 GMT -5
Yes Jacque, I had the pleasure of seeing Michael in 1984 on the Victory Tour w/ his brothers. Till this day, it is STILL the best concert that I've ever seen in my life and I'll cherish the memories forever!!
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Post by jacque on Mar 7, 2010 0:34:51 GMT -5
How absolutely WONDERFUL, divastyle!!! If I had only known Michael and had the feelings for him that I do now, I probably could have seen him when he was here in Houston on his Bad Tour in 1988. So sad that I missed the chance of a lifetime and didn't even know it!!
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Post by karencanada on Mar 7, 2010 14:14:05 GMT -5
Hey Divastyle, so you have a similar username on Youtube?! If you do...hi It's karen of karenstube I'm guessing it must be you! Welcome here! Welcome here if you are or not, the same person !
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Post by divastyle on Mar 7, 2010 21:39:51 GMT -5
Hey Karen, it's me!! We havta get Lisa over here too, Michael has brought us all together, he's AMAZING!!!!!
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Post by divastyle on Mar 7, 2010 21:55:00 GMT -5
How absolutely WONDERFUL, divastyle!!! If I had only known Michael and had the feelings for him that I do now, I probably could have seen him when he was here in Houston on his Bad Tour in 1988. So sad that I missed the chance of a lifetime and didn't even know it!! I'm sorry you never got to see Michael live, he was AMAZING!!!!!
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Post by Melissa on Mar 8, 2010 1:54:43 GMT -5
I also saw Michael on his Victory Tour in '84! It was the one and only time he came to Vancouver, BC and I was there. I was only seven years old at the time, but I still remember Billie Jean, and the set with his brothers at the end. It's amazing to think of it now ... that at age seven I was there to witness the beginning of his prime years as a performer.
In high school, it was the height of Dangerous and then History and I was a ridiculous fan. I would watch Moonwalker over and over and wish I was one of those sobbing girls in the audience.
Finding him again now, though hard and bittersweet, is not only about reconnecting with his essence and all that he represented, but also reconnecting with that part of myself that I lost for so many years. That part that Michael REFUSED to lose in himself, no matter how hard the world tried to take it from him. He's my conscience now ... my reminder of what is constant in us, no matter what circumstances we are made to endure.
I am so grateful that the child in me was able to experience his presence in '84. I'm honoured.
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Post by karencanada on Mar 8, 2010 21:40:04 GMT -5
Hey Dawn! Wow sooo cool to have you here, too How did you find this site? And yes I would love to see Lisa here too...I told her about it a long time ago though and think she's already burning the candle at both ends without adding another group to visit on the 'net! I find I don't have anywhere near enough time to be here these days...it's a very sweet group of people here ! How are you? I hope you're good and enjoying your new job! Hugs and MJLOVE, Karen PS did you read the post about the road trip?! Wanna come?!
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Post by divastyle on Mar 8, 2010 22:07:43 GMT -5
Hey Karen! The job is going quite well, we should be on the phones this week. I saw about the roadtrip, I'd love to go if I have the money then, but you guys will havta sadate me to get on the plan, I've NEVER flown and I'm AFRAID!!!
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Post by catharina59 on Mar 9, 2010 10:41:50 GMT -5
You have said that beautifully!!! Love you! catharina
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Post by catharina59 on Mar 9, 2010 10:45:45 GMT -5
I mean , I read what divastyle hhas written!
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Post by divastyle on Mar 9, 2010 22:46:28 GMT -5
I mean , I read what divastyle hhas written! Thanx Catharina!!
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Post by alijoy on Mar 10, 2010 3:42:32 GMT -5
I'm just coming by to say I hope that people are continuing to join my Facebook group. Thanks.
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Post by karencanada on Mar 12, 2010 2:11:50 GMT -5
Dawn, where do you live? maybe you can drive??? Or we can just make sure you set yourself up with an ipod full of Michael tunes and I am sure his beautiful voice and spirit will transport you to LA with no fear PS I think we're going pretty budget-- I hope!
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